Mientras publicaba un comentario en otro blog, acerca de lo doloroso del pago mensual de algunos juegos en línea, recordé con nostalgia y cariño los MUDs.
Todo comenzó cuando alguien pasó el dato del MUDA, Multi User Dungeon Adventure, por allá por los tiempos en que en la USM teníamos acceso solo a Bitnet. El bendito servidor estaba en Italia por lo que pudimos averiguar en esa época (comienzos de los 90), y los mensajes demoraban en salir y en volver (TELL MUDA AT IVEUNCC look). Efectivamente, recién busqué y corresponde a Universita’ degli Studi di Venezia Italia.
Pasé muchas horas de mi vida (y de clases) jugando delante de un monitor a colores (negro y verde), mandando instrucciones para moverme por un mundo virtual, tratando de completar quests, incorporándome a un guild, haciendo amigos, matando monstruos, etc.
Después llegó internet, y no me demoré mucho en encontrar los MUDs. La verdad ya no recuerdo en cuál partí jugando, o aquellos por los que pasé, pero la mecánica era la misma. También se empezaron a notar las malas constumbres de algunos y conocí el concepto de PK o Player Killing, en que jugadores hacen que sus personajes maten a los personajes de otros jugadores. Lo otro que se mantenía era que bastaba un terminal de 80×25 para poder jugar.
También vino el refinamiento con programas para Win que te ayudaban a armar el mapa, grabar macros y cosas así. Todo eso mientras soñábamos con un MUD gráfico.
Aquí vino un paréntesis, definido claramente por los juegos de rol de mesa.
Mucho tiempo (y kilos) después, estamos invadidos por juegos on-line multijugador y toda la parafernalia esa. Los más nuevos en su mayoría son de suscripción y necesitas unos buenos monstruos de PC para poder jugarlo en todo su potencial. Estamos hablando de que poder jugar a alguno de estos nuevos exponentes es casi un lujo. Y si además vemos todo el mercado paralelo que se ha creado para ítems y dinero del juego, uff, es todo un negocio, en el que a veces siento que se pierde de vista lo importante. Para algunos era descubrir, para otros era subir de nivel y para muchos era hacer amigos. Dentro del juego, se sigue haciendo casi lo mismo que hacíamos hace 10 años en terminales de 80×25, pero ahora es más sofisticado, no hace falta leer tanto como antes y puedes comprar por internet el manual de como subir de nivel.
Creo que más simple era mejor.
Thursday 20 April 2006 at 4:48 pm
Y una cosa muy importante, yo creo que aprendí a hablar inglés jugando MUDA. Y también me gané mi nickname que todavía uso, el Sir Harold :) que recuerdos aquellos! matando vacas disparando flechas desde otra habitación, y claro, si alguien se metía en la habitación también se moría…
Ninguno de los juegos online en la actualidad me entusiasman tanto como lo hizo MUDA.
Sir Harold
Wednesday 21 February 2007 at 6:56 am
I don’t know spanish, but from a few keywords in your post i thought that you may be interested in my new site. Yep, i am the original MUDA’s Gandalf…. :-)
Thursday 29 March 2007 at 6:52 am
iam Terminator from muda@grearn.
i was a semigod :) do u still remember me? i was playing from @TRCUNIV
i miss you a lot boys
Thursday 29 March 2007 at 7:03 am
these are the names i remember;
akasha; my love
niki or nikita; (not sure) her sister
grego; my dear god, founder of semi-peaceful cycle and my dady in muda
razor; nostradamus; crom; sauron; my friends from greece who always tried to teleport me to room 34 and 35; the black and dark rooms with no exits. killed me many times :)
legolas and raistlin; my dear friends.
kaspin; from england my dear god
rambo; my god from greece who was a real pain in my but :)
i h still the help files printouts at home :) i am still saving them.
do you still remember the command ADDO :)
cp sm rscs m muda iveuncc addo 1 0 WE8000 A Good Sword
hehehehe
i remember some game characters too.
nataly; sells food
bobo; find the ring from catahulhu and solve the first quest
tentacles
lady white
i miss muda very much :(
Tuesday 17 November 2009 at 6:35 pm
Terminator I do remember you but Do you remember me….I went by the name Thomas and was one of the Children of the Mist…I to remember Akasha and Natasha and my dear friends Archer and Erin and Soulcatcher who inspired my Soultaker Sword and MaaW and Kaspin who were gracious enough to give the sword life and my enemy on the game/friend in real life Anthrax who sat beside me at Eastern Kentucky University and bought more than his fair share of the drinks while we played ah yes those were the days
Thursday 19 November 2009 at 12:01 pm
Hi guys,
Kaspin here, reading these posts bring back so many memories, it feels like only yesterday.
I was only talking to my daughter today about MUDA and my own attempts at mud writing with MUDB :-)
Maybe we need a facebook group to see how many old players we can find.
I hope you are all doing well.
Mike aka kaspin
Friday 20 November 2009 at 5:31 pm
Kaspin good to see you are still around it would be great to do that facebook idea…wouldnt you think it would be only proper if Merlin were over it though?
Wednesday 23 June 2010 at 11:21 am
Hi everybody,
I don’t have a facebook account and i’m not planning to create one, so anyone who likes can create that facebook group, it may help more ex-players find us… :-)
Kaspin and Terminator, in the MUDA tribute site (http://www.grcrun11.gr) i have a player’s comments page, send me something if you want…
Sunday 11 April 2010 at 6:49 pm
rthere are too many mike calcutt on facebook
my email adrress is dbaydur[at]ttmail[dot]com for who remembers me :)
Tuesday 22 June 2010 at 3:43 am
Hi there,
Funny to find this post out here. I was searching on MudA and I found Merlin’s site. And from there on I came to this post.
I’ve played MudA when I was still study’ing in Nijmegen in the Netherlands. As Legolas, member and later cyclemaster of the Grey Swords. I do remember you all and I miss those times too.
Anybody created that facebook page yet? I’d would really like to become a member.
Regards,
Johan,
a.k.a. Legolas :).
Tuesday 22 June 2010 at 3:45 am
btw my e-mail adresss is johan_berghmans[at]hm[dot]com. And then replace hm by hotmail :).
Tuesday 22 June 2010 at 11:34 am
Just another short note to get replies to this post… in case there are any…
Wednesday 23 June 2010 at 4:40 pm
For those who are interested (and still read this BLOG entry) – I’ve created a facebook group. I also already invited Juan (owner of this blog) and Deniz to it (and I’ve got them as contacts on facebook).
Legolas :-D.
Saturday 10 July 2010 at 12:13 pm
Hi All!!!
You will not believe how I found this site. *LOL* I was feeling very nostalgic from a dream I had last night about Haribo. I started looking him up on Google and then through searching around for him, I found Gandalf’s site about MUDA. I seriously about cried when I found it.
It brought back so many fun and wonderful memories. Akasha, Morgan, Dark Jedi and myself talk about it often. We’ve even considered writing a book about it as we own our own book publishing company.
We are still out here and we think of you all fondly very often. I cannot believe that Thomas (Tad) even remembers The Children Of The Mist. I was doing some spring cleaning over the last few weeks and I still have the original charter and notes we wrote up for the guild. There is even a list of our dragons in there. Anyone remember Natasha sitting outside of the start room feeding newbies to Vlad? Or Akasha’s purple dragon farting bubbles for players to ride on?
Terminator… the awesome times you and I had sitting outside of the start room smashing newbies and the evil ways we would devise to con ppl out of that room to kill them still give me a giggle.
The Boys from Greece… you will always hold that special place in my heart. The way you woo’d my family will never be forgotten. ;)
The Lords of Chaos, you truly were some brutally fun players to kill. Never was it easy or not without a ton of fun that is for sure.
Legolas… I cannot believe you are still around. OMG, we always had such fun together. It was always so hard to play my evil self around you.
Kaspin… wow… You still make me blush when I see your name. I always had a secret crush on you. hehe
I definitely remember you all and as I was reading the posts here, I was going to setup a FB page for MUDA but I see Legolas has done it. I searched on “MUDA” this morning on there and nothing came up so if you could give me the link to the Group/Page I will definitely add it.
Does anyone know if Grego or Rambo or any of the other Gods are around? The only things I can find on Haribo are some guitar song pages he posted in 2002. We lost contact about 12 years ago when I moved.
I brought out my old address book and have a lot of the old MUDA player’s names and addresses but I’m sure a lot of them have changed over the years since we’re not in college anymore.
Well I’m off for now. E-mail me. (nikki@millerwrite.com) or you can add me on FB, facebook@houseofparents.com
Monday 12 July 2010 at 1:53 pm
Akasha checking in. ;-) I wish I could read all the Spanish here, but it’s not one of the languages I learned over the years! *lol* Anyway, just wanted to let you all know that even after all of these years, I still have a sentimental attachment to MUDA and the times we had there. When I read all the posts and saw some of my old friends here, it certainly brought back good memories! No online game could ever compare to MUDA for me, so I never gamed after that. Could never stand any of the other games, just didn’t capture my heart. ;-) I think of us all as pioneers in the mudding/gaming AND internet era! (OMG can you believe I had to explain to my husband what BITNET even was??!!!). Best regards to you all!! Stay in touch!
Akasha
Semi-Goddess
Children of the Mist.
Monday 12 July 2010 at 5:34 pm
Hey Legolas, what is the name of the group on FB I couldn’t find it :-(
Monday 12 July 2010 at 5:48 pm
Hey Mike,
He set it up as Closed so you cannot search for it and find it. Send me a facebook invite at facebook@houseofparents.com and I’ll invite you to the group. :)
N.
Monday 12 July 2010 at 7:43 pm
Natasha how could I not remeber Muda and The Children of the Mist. It was my College Social life for a period of time. Remember Anthrax of the Lords of Chaos? He and I use to battle while sitting side by side in a lab sharing pizza lol. Am working on a screen play about Muda and a retelling about the battles with Anthrax and the Lords of Chaos with a few creative changes but keeping to the central story and moving a few chacters arround and adding in some dramma that wasnt there and a few suprises and people in different places to make it more ballanced.
Monday 12 July 2010 at 11:58 pm
The thing is, I didn’t know that people can’t find the group. In the explanation it says that people can see the description but not any other information that’s posted in the group.
I can set it up so it’ll be open?
Wednesday 23 March 2011 at 7:21 pm
Hello all MUDA users,
I remember many people from MUDA, especially Greeks fighters :)
Saturday 17 March 2012 at 11:18 am
Hello MUDA players,
I have some news: Wernke (one of us :-)) has a copy of the REXX code of MUDA! It is already uploaded in my site (http://www.grcrun11.gr/files/).
Saturday 17 March 2012 at 12:29 pm
Gandalf
I have some of the data files , the short ( short room descriptions ), Rooms.Lod ( long room descriptions ) & Rooms.dat ( which details
which room connects to which room ) let me know how to get them to you.
Kaspin
Saturday 17 March 2012 at 1:23 pm
Great news, Kaspin! Could you please put them in a .zip file and mail them to me ? My address is SYSTU003 in the node GRCRUN11.gr :-)
I would also like to remind that in the site i have a page with players’ comments, so anybody who would like to write some thoughts to be posted there could send me a mail to the above address.
Saturday 17 March 2012 at 1:46 pm
And thanks to Kaspin, a version of the data files is also available in the site under the files area. Nostalgia weekend people! :-)
Saturday 17 March 2012 at 6:37 pm
i am bored of the games allods online etc.
i wanna play muda again
i still have all muda help files and room descriptions (print outs) and it makes me sad when i see them :(
Saturday 17 March 2012 at 8:03 pm
I really miss MUDA, it is a shame we could not actually turn it into a graphical game like Dragon Age or something. With all of the stories we wrote back and forth on the listserv there is an awesome storyline there just waiting to be turned into an amazing game.
Monday 26 March 2012 at 3:56 pm
I miss it too. But also MudB. It would be nice. But one thing we’d miss is all those players we had back then. Until now we’ve only found 10 or so. And I wouldn’t want any strangers on our graphical Mud. I don’t like what online gaming turned into.
The only online graphical game i really liked was Dark Sun Online back in ’95/’96. Friends of mine played games like Lineage 2, Warhammer Online etc. I never got in2 those.
Tuesday 27 March 2012 at 3:53 pm
I agree with you on the open online gaming. I got into Everquest and WoW for a while but the more ppl that started gaming on those platforms the worse it got. No one is interested in having a good time anymore. It is all about griefing and messing with other ppl’s game time. Even PKing has turned into a nightmare. When we killed other players there was a reason. Newbies needed to learn respect, higher level players were killed because of a backstory with our characters. We had guild wars, etc. Now the developers give you no rewards for killing someone other than just “I saw you standing there and I thought I would screw with your fun time.”
What I meant about graphical is like a co-op scenario where we could (original players) could get together and play out Muda only with graphical beauty and take all of our stories from the list-serv and turn them in actual story content for the game.
I do miss a good game played with great ppl like we had on MUDA and there is nothing out there that even comes close to comparing that is for sure.
Monday 26 March 2012 at 3:35 pm
Hi everybody, this is Wernke … just to let you know that I have sent my nostalgic thoughts to Gandalf to put it on his memorial site. Hope to hear from you again.
Monday 26 March 2012 at 3:42 pm
@Wernke: Have you got a facebook account? If you do, look me up, and I’ll invite u to the Muda group. There’s only 7 members or so. It’s been up since 2010. Right now it’s a bit quiet. But with more members it might get more posts again… And if you become a member, you might be interested in reading all the old posts we wrote on its board.
Regards, Johan a.k.a. Legolas
Monday 26 March 2012 at 3:55 pm
Sorry, no, I am a Facebook denier!
And sorry Legolas, I have not mentioned you in the list of my supporters, but you were one of them! :)
Monday 26 March 2012 at 3:47 pm
BTW – I would like to give a big thank-you for this BLOG that helped us find eachother again after so many years.
Monday 26 March 2012 at 3:52 pm
@Pasha: have you got a facebook account? look me up to – johan berghmans, networks: Radboud Universiteit Nijmegen, Fontys Lerarenopleiding Sittard, Logica
@Merlin: Perhaps you’d be considering after all to create a facebook account?
Tuesday 27 March 2012 at 10:45 am
Sorry Legolas, i am a Facebook denier too, just because i don’t like the forcefully commercial turn of today’s Internet. Maybe I’m just getting old… :-)
Tuesday 27 March 2012 at 3:22 am
instead of creating a face account; it would be better considering to build muda up to life again :)
Tuesday 27 March 2012 at 10:51 am
Well, i *may* try to write some code just to be able to at least walk around the rooms. Porting the original REXX code to some other system is not something i could do – just consider the problems of porting the messaging from RSCS protocols to tcp/ip… *shudder*
Tuesday 27 March 2012 at 11:26 am
Pity some of you are so against facebook. I m still very much into internet and also into social networking. I m almost embarassed to say that i could nt live without it.
But anyways , i m very glad to have found u all with this blog. Which is almost unbelievable.
Johan.
Tuesday 27 March 2012 at 4:03 pm
I have to admit I am pretty guilty of being part of the anti social network as well. I mean I do have a Facebook account and I am running a messageboard (that has pretty much died and I need to re-think a theme and subject matter to draw in some ppl… MUDA maybe? ;) ) and have tons of websites, etc. But I am not into the whole social media where just anyone can come in and see who I am and what I am doing.
Since MUDA I have gone on to other MUDs and gotten involved with a lot of communities with A LOT of bad experiences with psycho-stalkers. It is just not my cup of tea anymore. Especially now that I have kids.Back when we were all on MUDA the entire BITNET/Internet was a close community of friends and acquaintances and we all pretty much knew each other. The minute it went public I knew the “glory days” were over and we were opening it up to a whole lot of trouble. I know that sounds really negative but you have to be realistic these days.
I let you all into my life because I adore you, I know the kind of ppl you are and where you came from. I do not want everyone to know everything about my life and what I do. Anything you put on the internet is there for eternity and anyone with enough motivation can find you. That is more real with Facebook than any other media outlet which is something I am not keen on at all and I can see why other’s feel the same way.
Plus not everyone is the eternal party boy you are Johan… you have always been a loveable ladies man and that would be a shame for that to change. Ever…. *hug*
Tuesday 27 March 2012 at 4:05 pm
In all seriousness, the only reason I created a Facebook account in the first place was to advertise my businesses. Once our lovely economy tanked and we lost our business I turned the account into a personal one. I only really keep it up so that I can stay in contact with my old friends and some of my family. But I will be the first to tell anyone that if you do not have a Facebook account, stay strong and do not make one. heh
Tuesday 27 March 2012 at 5:05 pm
Well, I can perfectly understand the way you feel about the way the internet has changed. And I have to agree it has changed to much in a negative way since the good old bitnet days. The fact that we were a much smaller community. But is was also different because of the kind of people that were on Bitnet back then – mostly people from universities and other educational instutions. Allthough – I must say that the beginning years of the world wide web had a lot in common with what I was used to on Bitnet. I got introduced to it back in ’95. And there weren’t to many people using it yet. It was also the same time that I still played Warhammer and had my own website and had written my own codex. Which fanbase in its own way was also a small community.
I personally don’t mind if people read what I have to say on those social media sites like facebook. But I do know what I write about. I don’t put just anything on there. Which can’t be said about a lot of other people on those sites. And the people I have as contacts are mostly people that I have really met or that I personally know.
But still – more in a general manner – I have to agree that there are some weirdo’s out there. And in your case, having kids for instance, I can imagine u’d be more careful. And also that u should be more careful.
*hug*
Tuesday 27 March 2012 at 5:35 pm
I have been involved in pretty much every aspect of the internet/web since 1986. Hell I have been designing websites and games since the www went graphical and public. I have had a ton of great experiences and my share of bad as well. When we are young and naive it is very hard not to trust ppl at face value. But I have always known that once you put something in public it is there forever so like you, I never put anything out that I am not willing to stand behind. And if I put it out there I do not care who reads it. But I make sure that the information I put out is nothing that is going to put my family (even before I had kids) in harms way. The funny thing is that I have ALWAYS been guarded about putting pictures of myself on the internet, which is why you could search until your fingers bleed and you will never find a picture of me anywhere on the internet. I have rarely even sent any pictures of myself through e-mail because once it is electronic it is just like the internet, it can never be really erased.
Given my experience and work with the bitnet/internet since 86 everyone I know cannot believe how guarded I am about the information I put out there. What harm can a picture of yourself cause… but that is just it… with the way technology and media has evolved in such a short period of time you never know. Once it is out there, you cannot take it back. I would rather err on the side of caution than wish I had, ykwim?
Thursday 30 August 2012 at 1:12 pm
Have a look:
http://www.grcrun11.gr/mudal.html
:-)
Saturday 4 May 2013 at 9:13 pm
Hello Guys, this is PaSHa,
I remember all you very well. Akasha, Natasha, Haribo, Marty, WzBorg (Wernke), Sauron (I still want to kill himmmm and all Greeks :) – because they killed me many timessss even while trying to kill bats and rats :) .. But, of course Terminator and GhostBuster (my friends) helped me a lot.
I remember we celebrated the birthday of Wernke, I think he was 40th birthday.. we were all in front of the computer.. I hope he is still fine.
it is nice to remember all you guys..
take care
ferit
Sunday 5 May 2013 at 3:27 am
Hi ferit, yes I remember you well as I remember all the others you mention. It was a nice birthday party, must have been in March 1993 because this year I made it to 60!
All the best to all of you!
Wernke, the first elected, now retired, Semigod of MUDA